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*:::::Your arguing about the total loss, and providing your own figure. Without providing any reliable sources to support that. You should go find reliable sources if you want to suggest a different loss figure [[User:Holydiver82|Holydiver82]] ([[User talk:Holydiver82|talk]]) 19:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC) | *:::::Your arguing about the total loss, and providing your own figure. Without providing any reliable sources to support that. You should go find reliable sources if you want to suggest a different loss figure [[User:Holydiver82|Holydiver82]] ([[User talk:Holydiver82|talk]]) 19:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
*:::::o you intend to keep repeating yourself? Clearly you do not understand this is about the '''reliability''' of the $270 million figure from ''Deadline''. The full production cost is actually $274.8 million (without the tax break) and $219.8 million (with the tax break). ''Deadline'' gets neither right, and that's a legitimate concern. -- [[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 20:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) | *:::::o you intend to keep repeating yourself? Clearly you do not understand this is about the '''reliability''' of the $270 million figure from ''Deadline''. The full production cost is actually $274.8 million (without the tax break) and $219.8 million (with the tax break). ''Deadline'' gets neither right, and that's a legitimate concern. -- [[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 20:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
*:::::::Many of these trades like Deadline and Variety tend to round these figures into different estimates. Forbes (at least Caroline Reid) has a tendency to provide more accurate figures for these budgets. Again, Deadline's figures are estimates, and regardless of their estimated budget, its report is still reliable for the fact that it lost money, which is what the focus should be here. Trying to focus on little details in these estimates is indicative of this process. As long as we note to our readers these are, in fact, estimates, there should be no issue here. [[User:Trailblazer101|Trailblazer101]] ([[User talk:Trailblazer101|talk]]) [[User:Trailblazer101|Trailblazer101]] ([[User talk:Trailblazer101|talk]]) 00:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC) | |
*:As long as we have this titled as "Estimated losses", things like tax breaks that offset the loss that don't appear accounted in the actual reliable sources estimating the loss should not affect this list. Accounting for total losses based on multiple sources enters into a territory that [[WP:SYNTH]] calculations would be problematic. We want one source to report one complete number and use that. [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 16:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC) | *:As long as we have this titled as "Estimated losses", things like tax breaks that offset the loss that don't appear accounted in the actual reliable sources estimating the loss should not affect this list. Accounting for total losses based on multiple sources enters into a territory that [[WP:SYNTH]] calculations would be problematic. We want one source to report one complete number and use that. [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 16:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
*::Yes, I agree that while we should not combine sources to produce a problematic [[WP:SYNTH]] scenario, we can still scrutinize the accuracy of the source. They are labeling this a "studio" loss and even factored in "interest and overhead", yet they neglected to include a tax break that without a doubt affects the studio's bottom line. It is concerning (unless I'm missing something). --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 19:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC) | *::Yes, I agree that while we should not combine sources to produce a problematic [[WP:SYNTH]] scenario, we can still scrutinize the accuracy of the source. They are labeling this a "studio" loss and even factored in "interest and overhead", yet they neglected to include a tax break that without a doubt affects the studio's bottom line. It is concerning (unless I'm missing something). --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 19:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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