Redirection of valid genera: Reply
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::I agree with regards to NPP, but that page was created in 2010, so that doesn't apply. A quick BEFORE search would have turned up taxonomic sources; alternately, that page had a taxonbar; glancing down at it would have brought you to several database sources which could easily be inserted into ref templates and stuck into the article. I respect your frustration with unsourced articles, but community consensus has held time and time again that large-scale removal of unreferenced articles (by deletion or by BLAR) is not acceptable, especially without reasonable BEFORE checks to determine if sources exist. I see from your contributions that you are in the habit of redirecting articles "until it has sources and evidence of notability" - do you do any BEFORE checks before doing this? (To be clear: I have often redirected articles for lacking notability, but I make sure to check for sources first; it's not the bold action I object to, but doing it without checking). ♠[[User remeditated Chaos|PMC]]♠ [[User_talkremeditated Chaos|(talk)]] 18:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC) | ::I agree with regards to NPP, but that page was created in 2010, so that doesn't apply. A quick BEFORE search would have turned up taxonomic sources; alternately, that page had a taxonbar; glancing down at it would have brought you to several database sources which could easily be inserted into ref templates and stuck into the article. I respect your frustration with unsourced articles, but community consensus has held time and time again that large-scale removal of unreferenced articles (by deletion or by BLAR) is not acceptable, especially without reasonable BEFORE checks to determine if sources exist. I see from your contributions that you are in the habit of redirecting articles "until it has sources and evidence of notability" - do you do any BEFORE checks before doing this? (To be clear: I have often redirected articles for lacking notability, but I make sure to check for sources first; it's not the bold action I object to, but doing it without checking). ♠[[Userremeditated Chaos|PMC]]♠ [[User_talkremeditated Chaos|(talk)]] 18:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
| :I guess it's a difference of opinion, with NPP, of whether the burden for sourcing is on the creator or the reviewer (though a bit different in cases where it has come up in NPP because of significant changes to the article, rather than brand-new creation). Perhaps something to discuss - I think there would be different opinions if I went to Wikiproject Unreferenced Articles, NPP or other forums. I think Wikiproject Unreferenced Articles pages links to some discussions started to try to get a wider concensus on this topic. Again, I do understand your point on this particular article. Thanks, [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn#top|talk]]) 19:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC) | :I guess it's a difference of opinion, with NPP, of whether the burden for sourcing is on the creator or the reviewer (though a bit different in cases where it has come up in NPP because of significant changes to the article, rather than brand-new creation). Perhaps something to discuss - I think there would be different opinions if I went to Wikiproject Unreferenced Articles, NPP or other forums. I think Wikiproject Unreferenced Articles pages links to some discussions started to try to get a wider concensus on this topic. Again, I do understand your point on this particular article. Thanks, [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn#top|talk]]) 19:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
| ::I'm concerned that you keep referring to NPP when many of the articles you're redirecting this way are not new articles. You also didn't answer my question about whether or not you actually check for sources before making these redirects. Do you check for sources? ♠[[Userremeditated Chaos|PMC]]♠ [[User_talkremeditated Chaos|(talk)]] 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
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