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| :::::{{tq|I think the solution is what has already been started, to describe in ''prose'' what the sources actually say, and get away from the list.}} Agreed; and completely agree that the issues are due to the binary "list" nature of this article. I would support an article on ''Totalitarianism'' or ''Totalitarian regimes'', with a brief list of select, uncontroversial, examples, and a discussion of controversial examples; both in prose. And would support discussion of viewpoints in articles on the individual regimes.<br/>But the nature of this article, contrast with a prose article is that it is, ''explicitly'', a list. It's difficult to get away from the list-iness when it has "list" in the title.<br/>If we are to have a list, then this article has some reasonable inclusion criteria in the lead paragraph: {{tq|'''commonly referred to as "totalitarian"''', or the concept of totalitarianism has been applied to them, for which there is '''wide consensus among scholars''' to be called as such}}. Per those criteria, this list should only include uncontroversial examples. But the list contents don't align with those criteria.<br/><small>Suggest that adding a column with a "count" {{tq|of academics who attribute a regime as totalitarian}}, where the counting is done by Wikipedia editors, as proposed above, is original research; and likely to be woefully inaccurate. But happy to agree to disagree.</small> [[User:Rotary Engine|Rotary Engine]] <sup>[[User talk:Rotary Engine|talk]]</sup> 00:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<small> added [[User:Rotary Engine|Rotary Engine]] <sup>[[User talk:Rotary Engine|talk]]</sup> 00:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</small> | :::::{{tq|I think the solution is what has already been started, to describe in ''prose'' what the sources actually say, and get away from the list.}} Agreed; and completely agree that the issues are due to the binary "list" nature of this article. I would support an article on ''Totalitarianism'' or ''Totalitarian regimes'', with a brief list of select, uncontroversial, examples, and a discussion of controversial examples; both in prose. And would support discussion of viewpoints in articles on the individual regimes.<br/>But the nature of this article, contrast with a prose article is that it is, ''explicitly'', a list. It's difficult to get away from the list-iness when it has "list" in the title.<br/>If we are to have a list, then this article has some reasonable inclusion criteria in the lead paragraph: {{tq|'''commonly referred to as "totalitarian"''', or the concept of totalitarianism has been applied to them, for which there is '''wide consensus among scholars''' to be called as such}}. Per those criteria, this list should only include uncontroversial examples. But the list contents don't align with those criteria.<br/><small>Suggest that adding a column with a "count" {{tq|of academics who attribute a regime as totalitarian}}, where the counting is done by Wikipedia editors, as proposed above, is original research; and likely to be woefully inaccurate. But happy to agree to disagree.</small> [[User:Rotary Engine|Rotary Engine]] <sup>[[User talk:Rotary Engine|talk]]</sup> 00:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<small> added [[User:Rotary Engine|Rotary Engine]] <sup>[[User talk:Rotary Engine|talk]]</sup> 00:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</small> |
| ::::::The list probably began life in [[totalitarianism]] (the article). This article can be prose, with an additional list as a convenience, echoing what is in the prose. If that doesn't work we can get rid of the list and rename it something like "Examples of totalitarianism" or "Totalitarian regimes" with the lead section making clear it is a "list" of regimes (not list in the Wikipedia sense). The hard part is filling out the prose section. I think getting rid of the list entirely is the best way otherwise editors will continue to focus on adding to a list and not bother with the prose, which is harder to contribute. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 00:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC) | ::::::The list probably began life in [[totalitarianism]] (the article). This article can be prose, with an additional list as a convenience, echoing what is in the prose. If that doesn't work we can get rid of the list and rename it something like "Examples of totalitarianism" or "Totalitarian regimes" with the lead section making clear it is a "list" of regimes (not list in the Wikipedia sense). The hard part is filling out the prose section. I think getting rid of the list entirely is the best way otherwise editors will continue to focus on adding to a list and not bother with the prose, which is harder to contribute. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 00:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
| == Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan == | |
| Hi, | |
| I'm sorry to just point this out and leave somebody else to do it but I've been trying to do this edit myself for 15 minutes and I'm just too dumb to figure out the UI so... | |
The section in the table for the modern Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, 2021 to present, links to the old Islamic Emirate from 1996-2001. I assume it should instead link to the actual Islamic Emirate since 2021 (i.e. the main Afghanistan article)? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3188:4C00:6DF8:67B8 34B:E98D|2A02:C7E:3188:4C00:6DF8:67B834B:E98D]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3188:4C00:6DF8:67B834B:E98D|talk]]) 11:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
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