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Overlap between articles Fiordland and Fiordland National Park

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::In my suggestion to trim content from the Fiordland article (about the region), I was influenced by looking at the coverage of geography and history in some other articles about regions. However, there is wide variability between articles. For instance [[Taranaki]] and [[Manawatū-Whanganui]] have significant coverage of those topics, but [[Wellington Region]], [[Auckland Region]], [[Bay of Plenty Region]] and [[Wairarapa]] much less so. I also considered how to make the [[Fiordland National Park]] article as useful as possible for the reader, and it seemed to me that a full description of history and geography was worthwhile including. For instance, there are are significant historic sites within Fiordland National Park, such as the remains of early settlements in [[Rakituma / Preservation Inlet]] and places where James Cook stayed for a significant time in [[Dusky Sound]]. The protection afforded by the National Park designation protects these historic sites. So I thought that the [[Fiordland]] article could focus mostly on population, economics, boundaries and other similar details. However, I see that it would also be possible to have the main content about geography and history in the [[Fiordland]] article, and just fairly brief sections about geography and history in the [[Fiordland National Park]] article with a "further" template linking to the more detailed content.	::In my suggestion to trim content from the Fiordland article (about the region), I was influenced by looking at the coverage of geography and history in some other articles about regions. However, there is wide variability between articles. For instance [[Taranaki]] and [[Manawatū-Whanganui]] have significant coverage of those topics, but [[Wellington Region]], [[Auckland Region]], [[Bay of Plenty Region]] and [[Wairarapa]] much less so. I also considered how to make the [[Fiordland National Park]] article as useful as possible for the reader, and it seemed to me that a full description of history and geography was worthwhile including. For instance, there are are significant historic sites within Fiordland National Park, such as the remains of early settlements in [[Rakituma / Preservation Inlet]] and places where James Cook stayed for a significant time in [[Dusky Sound]]. The protection afforded by the National Park designation protects these historic sites. So I thought that the [[Fiordland]] article could focus mostly on population, economics, boundaries and other similar details. However, I see that it would also be possible to have the main content about geography and history in the [[Fiordland]] article, and just fairly brief sections about geography and history in the [[Fiordland National Park]] article with a "further" template linking to the more detailed content.
::It would be great to get a bit more feedback about which way to go, and then I will proceed with a partial merger to reduce the extent of duplication._[[User:Marshelec|Marshelec]] ([[User talk:Marshelec|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)	::It would be great to get a bit more feedback about which way to go, and then I will proceed with a partial merger to reduce the extent of duplication._[[User:Marshelec|Marshelec]] ([[User talk:Marshelec|talk]]) 00:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Marshelec}} I've found a few international articles about a geographic feature and national park that are approximately analogous:
:::[[Catskill Mountains]] vs. [[Catskill Park]]: history and geography primarily in the Catskill Mountains article (or rather, a subordinate page about the Catskills).
:::[[Lake District]] vs. [[Lake District National Park]]: national park article merged into geographic area article (most UK national park articles seem to be like this).
:::[[Yorkshire Dales]] vs. [[Yorkshire Dales National Park]]: history and geography primarily in Yorkshire Dales
:::[[Cairngorms]] vs. [[Cairngorms National Park]]: geography sections detailed in both, national park article only focuses on national park history
:::[[Stirling Range]] vs. [[Stirling Range National Park]] both articles have extensive geography/history sections
:::[[Dirk Hartog Island]] vs. [[Dirk Hartog Island National Park]]: national park merged.
:::[[Wicklow Mountains]] vs. [[Wicklow Mountains National Park]]: national park article brief and focused on park history.
:::There's likely plenty more out there, and we can't really use these as justifications for what works best for Fiordland, but of these articles, I much prefer the ones that have large detailed information in the geographic feature article, and more targeted information in the park article. --[[Userrosperosity|Prosperosity]] ([[User talkrosperosity|talk]]) 00:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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